Feb 25 - 26 - Art Bell - Jim Sparks - Alien Abduction

[Alpha]

I am very excited about this 2nd Coast appearance with Jim Sparks this Sunday night.

His last appearance on Dec. 9, 2006 was some of the best talk radio I've heard in a long time.

Bio

Jim Sparks lives in the Nevada desert and works as a debt consultant. Born in 1954, he spent his early years in Florida. Sparks studied real estate at a community college in Florida and began working for a major condominium firm who eventually moved him to Houston in 1979. After twelve years he started J & J Properties, a natural land development company, which mostly operated in North Carolina. Sparks was now able to use his own philosophy and forbade removing more trees than necessary on each lot.

At 34 years old, Sparks was happily married and financially successful, when his experiences with other worldly beings started. Life as he knew it began to unravel with these unexplained incidents. Now, eighteen years later, Sparks has moved from resister to cooperator and is sharing his experiences with others. A conservationist at heart, Sparks encourages others to support the work being done by the Nature Conservancy to help save critical acreage in the Atlantic Forest region of South America.
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Tonight Jim will share his more of his account of nearly 2 decades of encounters with aliens, providing one of the most detailed documentations of abductions in history. :spacecraft:

Here's some more prep for tonight's show:

Meetings with Remarkable Aliens

From the late John Mack's Website

Linda Moulton Howe talks to Jim Sparks about his life-changing encounter with reptoid aliens, whose message for saving planet Earth may veil their true intentions.

"Higher intelligence takes advantage of, and uses, lower intelligence-sort of the way we humans use cattle. And with the privilege of use, comes the responsibility of caring... A farmer tends to his animals by feeding them and taking care of their medical needs. If the pasture became contaminated, the farmer would be the first to protect his investments." -- Jim Sparks, Abductee, 1996. Fort Myers Beach, Florida, USA

In 1995, I met a man named Jim Sparks who says he has had completely conscious encounters with "small, grey, drone worker types; taller true aliens, or supervisors; and tall reptoids with big, human-shaped bodies covered with scaly, reptile skin". Sparks sees himself as an interpreter or translator-or at least an elementary grade student in an alien "school". He says he has been forced to learn English letter and number equivalents to alien symbols.

Jim Sparks permitted me to tape-record hours of our discussions about his experiences. This chapter emerged from those conversations and his efforts to visualise and write down what has happened for his own book manuscript.1

After eight years "of being close enough to breathe their rotten-egg-smelling skin", Sparks thinks he has some insights into the alien agenda, but admits he has "a thousand more questions than answers". He is frustrated that he cannot prove his contacts with alien beings.

Sparks was born to Italian parents on November 15, 1954. The formal name on his birth certificate is Vincent Sparacino. He grew up in southern Florida, graduated from high school and spent a couple of years in a local college studying real estate. He moved on to Houston, Texas, in 1979, and then to North Carolina where he purchased raw land and divided lots for housing construction-but always felt a strong need to preserve the trees at his developments. Happy, married and thriving, by 1988 at age thirty-four, Sparks suddenly came face to face with other beings from other worlds.

Sparks at first thought he had lost his mind. He says he was kept totally conscious through most of the interactions, including the agony of being "pulled" from his bed at night to a craft.

"I'm usually pulled the same way, which I call the 'hard way', and it's completely physical. My whole body is taken. The first thing I hear is a low-pitched, whirling sound in my head, like a whip going around in the air. This is usually after I go to bed and am asleep. Normally for me, it's 3.30 am in the early morning. I don't know why. I wake up from my natural sleep, and then there's the whirling sensation in the pit of my stomach and it feels like it's coming up into my chest. When it gets up to my heart area, my heart starts beating fast, just racing in my head, and the whirling sound starts picking up rpm and is tremendously loud. It starts low and rises in pitch and screams in your head. The fear is like you're going to die. Your heart is racing a million miles an hour and then you get this acceleration feeling, but I always feel like I'm being pulled down; I never feel like I'm being pulled up. It's like I go down a rollercoaster, only a hundred times faster, and whoom-you black out and you're there, wherever it is you're going to be, usually on board a craft."

Sparks told me why he thinks that most of the time he is actually "pulled" physically from bed and literally moved through the walls or ceiling as other abductees have also described.

"It's their technology. I know the aliens rely heavily on a created field. This field produces several things: the ability to be invisible, the ability to work in one dimension and be partially in another, and the ability to move us poor humans through solid matter.

"How exactly it works, I don't know. But I know it's a field. When the field is in action, you can feel it, you can sense it; you almost feel like you are a magnet or static electricity. It takes a wall as you would normally see it and makes it transparent. You walk right through it. So, it's a field that somehow separates molecules, changes your physiology when you're in it."

I asked Sparks if he has been awake and conscious while actually seeing doors and walls become transparent.

"Only rarely. And it freaked me out. Most of the time I black out before that moment and then I'm on board the craft. I know this all sounds weird as hell, but I'm doing the best I can under very bizarre circumstances not to be scared to death, not to be intimidated, and to figure out what these bastards are up to. And I know that their technology renders different ways of transport, and one is the 'hard way' and I'm there in the flesh, not out of body!"

In early 1995, Jim Sparks had an abduction experience that changed him forever, he says, and left him obsessed with saving the rainforests and stopping the human slashing and burning-by-fire that is destroying them. This experience, excerpted here with Jim's permission, is puzzling because yet another alien type is introduced. These reptilian entities also provoke questions about a possible connection to viper references in Enoch of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Book of Genesis in the Bible.

Jim Sparks's encounter with reptilian humanoids, their warning and possible agenda, follows:

"The pulling started the usual way with a low-pitched, whirling sound-only this time, it didn't speed up as fast or get as loud and it was more gentle. I was paralysed again, but I momentarily regained consciousness before the final transport sequence was complete and I could see where I was going. That was a first!

"As my eyes opened, I saw that I was at least a thousand feet above the ground and slowly descending. Below me was an abandoned carnival park. I was floating over a large, old-fashioned wooden rollercoaster and I wasn't scared! I was calm and relaxed, and the ride was so gentle I was actually enjoying it.

"When I was twenty or thirty feet from the ground, I started to slowly rock back and forth several times like a pendulum-almost like I was being guided to a target and this was the final adjustment. Then I saw the profiles of about a dozen large creatures standing in a semi-circle. Although it was night, I could make out the shapes of their body size-and they were large, even by human standards. A few inches front the ground, I blacked out.

"As I began to regain consciousness, I was standing and heard telepathically, loud and clear:

'We would have given it to you, but we knew it wouldn't have meant anything unless you earned it. It was the only way you could possibly understand what you have been a part of and what you have to do.'

"I now know the 'it' was knowledge. I was clear-headed and wide-awake conscious. There were twelve large, humanoid creatures standing in almost a complete circle in which I was a part. The creatures appeared to be at least six feet tall. All of them had their heads turned towards the alien who was standing to my immediate left.

"The only apparent light source was on the face of this creature, like a hologram of a human face superimposed and glowing over the alien's face [Howe's emphasis]. It was radiating light, and this was done to disguise his true appearance. He had done this to make me feel less apprehensive. The creatures didn't take into consideration that as this holographic face spoke and moved its lips, there was no audible sound.

"The voice being communicated telepathically was out of sync with the lips! Plus, the face was obviously a hologram because it was slightly off centre from the body. But it worked, nonetheless, because I wasn't scared.

"As the reptoids transmitted telepathically, I noticed that each alien seemed to be concentrating its thoughts to the creature on my left. One thing for sure: they were of one mind, and it said:

'There are some things you need to understand. Yes, it's true that we have been in contact with your government leaders and heads of power. It is also true that agreements have been made and kept secret from your people. It is also true that, in the past, some of your people have lost their lives or have been badly hurt to protect this secret. Our hands had no part in this.

'We contacted your leaders because your planet is in grave trouble. Your leaders said the vast majority of your population wasn't ready for anything like us yet, so we made time agreements with your leaders as to when your people would be made aware of our presence. This part of the agreement has not at all been kept.

'It was also agreed that, in the meantime, steps would be taken to correct the environmental condition of your planet with our advice and technology. We say advice, because we respect the fact that this is your planet, not ours. Your government also broke this agreement.'

"I felt an awful emotion of abandonment from these aliens. They are different. I never sensed true emotion from the other aliens before. But the feeling wasn't at all good. It felt like great loss. I couldn't help asking, 'You aren't giving up on us, are you?'

"There was a long pause of silence and I had a strong feeling of tremendous loss. So I asked again, 'Well, are you?' There was another long pause.

"Then finally:

'No. We are now concentrating our energy on the average person. Your air and your water are contaminated. Your forests, jungles, trees and plant life are dying. There are several breaks in your food chain. You have an amount of nuclear and biological weapons which include nuclear and biological contamination. Your planet is overpopulated. Warning: It is almost to the point of being too late unless your people act now. There are better ways of deriving your energy and food needs without causing your planet any damage. Those in power are aware of this and have the capability to put these methods into worldwide use.'

"I asked, 'Why aren't we doing it now?' There was silence, and the whole thing was so strange because I could see that the whole group was thinking and speaking its mind at one time. It felt good because I was a participant in an honest-to-goodness meeting! The best part was that for the first time I was getting direct answers to my questions. 'Why aren't we putting these new methods into use now?'

'Those in power view it [technology for clean energy and abundant food] as a military and security threat.'

"Then I got angry as hell and said, 'You mean to tell me our people in power have the ability to save and better this planet and they aren't doing it?!' The thought that technology was being held back from the public because of paranoia and greed outraged me, and the aliens saw my anger. But was it true?

'Amnesty.'

"What do you mean?"

'Complete amnesty. To those in power, the governments and the leaders who have been suppressing the truth. They can't be held liable for any past wrong deeds. It is the only way these leaders can come forward with the truth. It is necessary that you do this in order to work together and survive.'

"There was silence for a while, as if they wanted me to think about what was just said. This was a hard truth to swallow. If anybody had a good reason to hate their government for covering up this information, it was me and others like me. Most abductees still consider themselves victims who constantly suffer ridicule. When your own government's policy is to say 'You're just plain crazy', it only deepens the pain.

"But this is a time when intelligence should rule over emotions. So I asked, 'How do I fit in all this? What can I possibly do?'

'What you are doing already. We will share much more knowledge with you in the future. Although you understand a lot, we will show you much more. Continue to work with people that come to you. We are aware of the small groups that are forming around the world. These are people who are prepared to learn and we consider them the core. Most important is the condition of your planet. The first step in solving this serious problem is amnesty. We have advice. You will receive more knowledge in the near future.'

"As this was going on, it started to rain. I mean, it was pouring! The creatures didn't even budge or try to get out from under it. They didn't have to: we weren't getting wet. Although we were standing completely outdoors with no roof, not one drop of rain touched us. I guess we were being protected by some sort of electric field. I could hear drops as they fell, but there was a clear, detectable line [around us] between rainfall and no rainfall. Then they said:

'It's time to go.'

"A thought flashed into my mind. 'Wait, please! I have a request. I want to see what you look like.' I'll never forget their response as long as I live:

'It will strike fear in your heart.'

"I answered, 'It won't scare me so much if you don't stand there and stare at me. It would help if you would just wave at me. Just don't stare. Promise me you'll wave.'

"Now I can't believe how stupid that request was. I had, in the flesh, face to face, probably some of the most intelligent creatures from the far reaches of the galaxy, with answers that have been plaguing mankind since the dawn of time. And what did I say? 'Could you wave at me?'

Part II HERE (http://www.esolibris.com/articles/ufo/meeting_aliens_02.php)

Interview with Jim Sparks and Anna Hayes (http://ufoexperiences.blogspot.com/2006/09/jim-sparks-and-anna-hayes.html)

Here's a video described as:

Editor of The UFO Encyclopedia and best-selling co-author of The Day After Roswell with Colonel ... all » Philip J. Corso. His latest book is co-authored with George Noory called 'Worker In The Light'.

We're also discussing Jim Sparks, who is a conscious abductee, meaning that he is able to remember his abductions, and has in fact been learning a kind of alphabet from them. Jim has also been given a message from the aliens - We're destroying our planet, and we'd better shape up - or else!

Duration: 59 Minutes


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[Jennifer Robins]

Hope to get on tonight and say hello. Been out all afternoon and tired, but will try.

Jennifer
www.jenniferrobins.com

[MuseNoir]

I have read "The Keepers" by Jim Sparks, and it was a very detailed book written in a casual, conversational tone.. much like the way Jim spoke on the last show. Besides all the great details, the interesting part of his story to me was his experience in classroom settings learning a new alphabet. This is a scan I made from the book showing the alphabet. He also mentioned that there is a shorthand version of this that condenses 20 pages of writing down to a half page of writing. (As someone who loves language and words as much as I do, I found this a bit chilling).

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/MUSENOIR/sparksalphabet.jpg

[Alpha]

Muse, thanks so much for the scan. :notworthy

This is indeed fascinating!!! I'm just reading this on the fly bye and will need to take a close look at it later.

I'm also keeping and eye on on a copy of "The Keepers"....I wanted to order it right after Jim's first appearance.

Would be interested to hear your comments/conclusions/insights recgarding this alien language.

I think Buzz just may find this interesting!! ;)

[williamstade]

Hoping to get some sleep but also hope to hang out here. I am writing now more to see the av that I just found. One of my favorite Peanuts skits!

William

[Alpha]

Hope to get on tonight and say hello. Been out all afternoon and tired, but will try.

Jennifer
www.jenniferrobins.com

Have a nice dinner and a nap if you can Jen...hope to see you tonight! :)...should be an outstanding show :)

[Alpha]

Hoping to get some sleep but also hope to hang out here. I am writing now more to see the av that I just found. One of my favorite Peanuts skits!

William

Sounds like my plan William....just finishing a couple of things around here, then a bite to eat and a nap before the show....hope to see you later!! :)

[williamstade]

Hoping to get some sleep but also hope to hang out here. I am writing now more to see the av that I just found. One of my favorite Peanuts skits!

William

Got rid of Lucy at her Psychiatric Advice Lemonade Stand AV. I love the skit but too depressing. Dolphin communion sounds better!

William

[loner]

Take a look-see at the link for Sparks:


Customers who bought this item also bought
Hidden Truth: Forbidden Knowledge by Steven M. Greer
The Grays by Whitley Strieber
Hunt for the Skinwalker: Science Confronts the Unexplained at a Remote Ranch in Utah by Colm A. Kelleher
Supernatural: Meetings with the Ancient Teachers of Mankind
Worker in the Light: Unlock Your Five Senses and Liberate Your Limitless Potential by George Noory

Don`t let me get in the way of that daisy-chain... :suspect:

[MuseNoir]

One more thing about the alien alphabet in Sparks' book - he was taught to make this alphabet in gestures, either with his arm or his fingers (that's why on the image I posted some letters say "4 strokes" or something like that).

He was shown pages to read that were written in this alphabet, and he found he could read them, to his surprise. The astounding part was that he was reading the life story of a friend of his - which also included future events, things that had not happened yet. I wish he had elaborated on this a little more in the book. The implications are huge, obviously.

[Alpha]

Take a look-see at the link for Sparks:



Don`t let me get in the way of that daisy-chain... :suspect:

In all fairness loner...what is the source?....Amazon or Barnes and Noble and their marketing or something else??

BTW...I want to believe as well...but hey, what's wrong with "wanna take a ride" provided the cerebral checks and balances are in place?!?!? :D ;)

Cerebral cybersize yet more...IMHO ;)

[MuseNoir]

In all fairness loner...what is the source?....Amazon or Barnes and Noble and their marketing or something else??

BTW...I want to believe as well...but hey, what's wrong with "wanna take a ride" provided the cerebral checks and balances are in place?!?!? :D ;)

Cerebral cybersize yet more...IMHO ;)

This looks like Amazon maybe? And yeah, it makes sense that someone listening to Jim on C2C might also purchase Worker In The Light. Same demographic for the most part.

[Nemo]

I'm very excited about the guest. I forgot who Sparks was and I wasn't all that keyed up to hear 'abduction' stuff as you know my feeling about it. But Sparks is a jewel - one of those classic old-time Art Bell guests who has an amazing story and the ability to articulate it in a very interesting and detailed way. Like Wit would do. This is the classic story we've been waiting for for a long time. One of those old good 'bump in the night' deals. I love a good story (fact or fiction), and this guy can tell one.

This is the real McCoy people!:yikes:

[MuseNoir]

Yes, he comes across as just a regular guy - funny, articulate, and honest about his anger and confusion and the effect it had on his life, marriage and business. His book reads the same way.

[williamstade]

I have to get some coffee! Would like to be awake for tonight's show!

William

[loner]

That came from the Amazon page linked to the C2C homepage. Howdy, Explorers :wave:

[Dark Skies]

Hey everyone, should be a barn burner tonight!

[Alpha]

I'm very excited about the guest. I forgot who Sparks was and I wasn't all that keyed up to hear 'abduction' stuff as you know my feeling about it. But Sparks is a jewel - one of those classic old-time Art Bell guests who has an amazing story and the ability to articulate it in a very interesting and detailed way. Like Wit would do. This is the classic story we've been waiting for a long time. One of those old good 'bump in the night' deals. I love a good story (fact or fiction), and this guy can tell one.

This is the real McCoy people!:yikes:

Hi Nemo :wave:

I agree Nemo...it's been a long time since Art of Coast found one of these...reminds me of the good old days.

Looking forward to this one.

Hope that Art has read his book. The "alphabet" that Muse posted is very interesting. I'm looking forward to hearing about that tonight.

[MuseNoir]

Good evening all --- getting snacks

[Alpha]

Hey everyone, should be a barn burner tonight!

Hi Dark Skies :wave: :yup: :yup: Hope everyone who doesn't have Streamlink has their recorders ready ;)

Art is commenting on how a guest can interview well with the Producers and the flop on the realy show....wonder if he's talking about Criswell?!?!?!? ;)

[Mcnowhere]

Hi everybody. :wave:

[loner]

Art is commenting on how a guest can interview well with the Producers and the flop on the realy show....wonder if he's talking about Criswell?!?!?!? ;)

Most highly likely. :biggthump

[Alpha]

Hi everybody. :wave:

Hi McNo :wave: .....good to see you!! :)

[Mcnowhere]

Hi McNo :wave: .....good to see you!! :)
Good to see you too Alpha...gonna be a good one I hope. I have never heard this guest before, I don't think.

[MuseNoir]

Hi Alpha, Tinkerbell, Dera, McNo, Williamstade, Dark Skies, loner, and anyone else coming in...!

[Dera]

Hello Troops. Sure hope we are not OVER anticipating tonight's show. I am ready for a REAL RIDE!

Sometimes over the years while listening to Coast I have said to myself, "Doesn't anybody ever TALK to guests before they put them on the air?" Criminently --once in awhile they are for the birds!http://th3zone.com/forum/images/smiles/68.gif

[Alpha]

Good to see you too Alpha...gonna be a good one I hope. I have never heard this guest before, I don't think.

Oh McNo....he was great on his first appearance in Dec!!!!! I hope this is a repeat performance!!

[Tinkerbell]

:wavey: Hi everyone! I'm Looking forward to this one.

[Dark Skies]

Hello Troops. Sure hope we are not OVER anticipating tonight's show. I am ready for a REAL RIDE!

Sometimes over the years while listening to Coast I have said to myself, "Doesn't anybody ever TALK to guests before they put them on the air?" Criminently --once in awhile they are for the birds!

Hopefully lightening won't strike twice! I don't think I heard Jim Sparks before so I'm looking forward to tonights show.

[MuseNoir]

Hey, Dera! I hope we aren't over anticipating either.... hope springs eternal, right?

[loner]

Did anyone see the Oscars tonight? The way they kept announcing what country the winners were from, I thought it was the Olympics. :slap:

[Tinkerbell]

That's a great avatar Alpha!:bigok:

[Mcnowhere]

Did anyone see the Oscars tonight? The way they kept announcing what country the winners were from, I thought it was the Olympics. :slap:
I never get to see the movies prior to the Oscars so I seldom watch.

[Alpha]

Hello Troops. Sure hope we are not OVER anticipating tonight's show. I am ready for a REAL RIDE!

Sometimes over the years while listening to Coast I have said to myself, "Doesn't anybody ever TALK to guests before they put them on the air?" Criminently --once in awhile they are for the birds!http://th3zone.com/forum/images/smiles/68.gif

Hi Dera :wave:

When I heard Jim Sparks firstit reminded me of the good old day of Mel Waters or Dr Jonathan Reid. I remember thinking http://www.comicguide.net/images/smilies/wow.gifhttp://www.comicguide.net/images/smilies/wow.gif

Hope that we get Part II of that http://home.no.net/birgif/glis/18.gif tonight!

[Alpha]

Did anyone see the Oscars tonight? The way they kept announcing what country the winners were from, I thought it was the Olympics. :slap:

No loner, I didn't watch them this time. I hadn't seen any of the movies and I am so tired of hearing about Britanny's shaved head and the crying judge and Anna Nicole that I couldn't take anymore of that plastic stuff, so I decided to read instead.

Was there anything good about it?...did you watch?

[Dera]

As follow up to Art's Great Show-Up UFO Experiment, I found this on the Coast site. (I know, you can go there yourself--this is in case you missed it.)


February 25, 2007

UFO in Maine? More Unusual Lights Fill Skies
By Gene Byrd
Feb 22, 2007

From the Carolinas to Arkansas to the deserts of Arizona unexplained lights have filled the night skies of late . That means local news stations and 911 switchboards get calls as people try to explain what at times seems like the unexplainable. Since the UFO appeared over Chicago's O'Hare airport in November, it appears that people are more concentrated on the skies.

This time a report comes in from Maine. According to the Morning Sentinel Callers from four southern Somerset County towns reported seeing strange lights in the sky Wednesday night. According to the paper, a caller from Skowhegan Road in Fairfield reported seeing strange lights in the sky, heading south. A Norridgewock caller said he saw lights, called the Brunswick Naval Air Station, which told him they were not aware of anything going on. The caller from Norridgewock Avenue in Skowhegan reported seeing yellow lights in the sky over Skowhegan.

***

The report also notes that another caller told dispatchers she saw reddish-orange UFOs through the trees. She said she saw three diagonal lights, then two and then one, before it “burned up like a comet.” Is there an easy explanation? Perhaps.

A spokeswoman from the Vermont Air National Guard confirmed that the unit was conducting training missions through that area Wednesday night. An F-16 flying overhead, the source said, would cause considerable noise.

[Tinkerbell]

:tired: I need coffee! BRB

[Nemo]

Yea, Sparks has a 'Dr. Reid' type of story. A good one. And he can expand on lots of things. Very good classic stuff.

Yes, I saw the Oscars tonight. Really enjoyed it. Wow, there sure is a lot of talent in Hollywood. Great singers, writers, actors etc. Very nice on the eyes too!

[Alpha]

That's a great avatar Alpha!:bigok:

Thanks Tink....you're is pretty cool too! :)

[Dark Skies]

Did anyone see the Oscars tonight? The way they kept announcing what country the winners were from, I thought it was the Olympics. :slap:

Nah, another year of missing it.

[ninj]

Hi gang, I'm a little late tonight but I guess lates better then not making it :) .

[Dera]

I never get to see the movies prior to the Oscars so I seldom watch.

I rarely go to the movies, so I don't know the actors or the pictures. I love to see what the women are wearing and watch only for that reason (that the female in me, Nemo). Missed it tonight, tho'. Will have to see what I can find on the web tomorrow.

[MuseNoir]

"Higher intelligence takes advantage of and uses lower intelligence, not unlike the way we use cattle. With the privelege comes the responsibility of care. A farmer tends to his animals by feeding them and taking care of their medical needs. He makes sure that all their survival needs are met so that he and his family can also survive. The cow, with it's limited intelligence, lives out its life span completely unaware of its fate.

If however, the pasture were to become contaminated, the farmer would take actions to protect his investment, either by cleaning the pasture or moving the cattle. If he had the technology, he might even take eggs and sperm from the herd and store them as insurance against the possibility that the pasture could not be saved, or that the cattle would be unsalvageable. Clearly, it would be easier to move cattle seeds than cattle bodies to cleaner pastures, and any such activity would take place right under the cattle's noses, without an inkling that anything was out of the ordinary.

Of course humans are not cattle, and the Earth is not a green pasture. Or is it? The Earth is too big to be a pasture, and humans are too intelligent to be cattle. Or are they? We know we are too smart to destroy our environment. Or are we? Our governements and scientists tell us that we are effectively alone in the Universem and we belive what they say. Or do we?"

Excerpt from "The Keepers" by Jim Sparks, p.197-98

[Alpha]

As follow up to Art's Great Show-Up UFO Experiment, I found this on the Coast site. (I know, you can go there yourself--this is in case you missed it.)


February 25, 2007

UFO in Maine? More Unusual Lights Fill Skies
By Gene Byrd
Feb 22, 2007

From the Carolinas to Arkansas to the deserts of Arizona unexplained lights have filled the night skies of late . That means local news stations and 911 switchboards get calls as people try to explain what at times seems like the unexplainable. Since the UFO appeared over Chicago's O'Hare airport in November, it appears that people are more concentrated on the skies.

This time a report comes in from Maine. According to the Morning Sentinel Callers from four southern Somerset County towns reported seeing strange lights in the sky Wednesday night. According to the paper, a caller from Skowhegan Road in Fairfield reported seeing strange lights in the sky, heading south. A Norridgewock caller said he saw lights, called the Brunswick Naval Air Station, which told him they were not aware of anything going on. The caller from Norridgewock Avenue in Skowhegan reported seeing yellow lights in the sky over Skowhegan.

***

The report also notes that another caller told dispatchers she saw reddish-orange UFOs through the trees. She said she saw three diagonal lights, then two and then one, before it “burned up like a comet.” Is there an easy explanation? Perhaps.

A spokeswoman from the Vermont Air National Guard confirmed that the unit was conducting training missions through that area Wednesday night. An F-16 flying overhead, the source said, would cause considerable noise.

Thanks Dera....I missed this one!!

I always like to post the entire article when I find one. Links tend to disappear and this way, we always have the information on the forum.

Military training sessions huh.....sure...just like weather balloons :no: :no:

Looks like perhaps the collective consciousness experiment worked if not in having them manifest, then atleast in people's awareness of them or noticing them :dunno:

[Mcnowhere]

Nah, another year of missing it.
As soon as Skype has hooked everybody in they will start charging the earth too. Let's not kid ourselves...

[Nemo]

Dera, you have a lot of 'spunk.'

[Alpha]

"Higher intelligence takes advantage of and uses lower intelligence, not unlike the way we use cattle. With the privelege comes the responsibility of care. A farmer tends to his animals by feeding them and taking care of their medical needs. He makes sure that all their survival needs are met so that he and his family can also survive. The cow, with it's limited intelligence, lives out its life span completely unaware of its fate.

If however, the pasture were to become contaminated, the farmer would take actions to protect his investment, either by cleaning the pasture or moving the cattle. If he had the technology, he might even take eggs and sperm from the herd and store them as insurance against the possibility that the pasture could not be saved, or that the cattle would be unsalvageable. Clearly, it would be easier to move cattle seeds than cattle bodies to cleaner pastures, and any such activity would take place right under the cattle's noses, without an inkling that anything was out of the ordinary.

Of course humans are not cattle, and the Earth is not a green pasture. Or is it? The Earth is too big to be a pasture, and humans are too intelligent to be cattle. Or are they? We know we are too smart to destroy our environment. Or are we? Our governments and scientists tell us that we are effectively alone in the Universe and we believe what they say. Or do we?"

Excerpt from "The Keepers" by Jim Sparks, p.197-98


Excellent excerpt Muse ...thanks :notworthy

No intelligent animal voids where they live and sleep....guess that probably says it all :sad:

[Alpha]

Hi gang, I'm a little late tonight but I guess lates better then not making it :) .

Hi ninj.....glad to have you with us.

We're hoping for a real "wanna take a ride" night, tonight!!

[Mcnowhere]

Oooops I put the wrong quote in my last post. Tired I guess.

[Nemo]

You know, one thing comes to mind about aliens taking reproductive stuff. If the 2012 stuff and the 'Horizon' stuff and Major Head Games is correct, the earth may experience whole continents sinking into the sea. Billions dying. If this were to happen in the not to distant future, aliens would probably know about this. If they knew about it, they would no doubt want to harvest a great deal of DNA.

[Dera]

Dera, you have a lot of 'spunk.'

:biglaugh: Thank you! - (I think) :flirt: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[Topper]

Per a friend of mine its Shift Happens

[Captain Beyond]

Hi everyone!:beerchug:

[Alpha]

As soon as Skype has hooked everybody in they will start charging the earth too. Let's not kid ourselves...

Long distance charges will soon be a thing of the past Mcno...the Ma Bells have been quivering in their boots about this for years and are still making good money from it, however no where near what they used to.

$29.95/year for unlimited long distance sounds good to me. If one knows how to route through the net ( which I don't btw), they say you can call almost anywhere for free these days...all over the globe!

[ninj]

Hi ninj.....glad to have you with us.

We're hoping for a real "wanna take a ride" night, tonight!!
Yeppers it looks like we are in for a ride.
Hey a little off topic but the is a commercial on youtube that if you'd like should check out, Its the best I've ever seen. I posted the link a couple days ago but here is the link again www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYnlIU4Mak8 those that check it out let me know what you think of it.

[MuseNoir]

You know, one thing comes to mind about aliens taking reproductive stuff. If the 2012 stuff and the 'Horizon' stuff and Major Head Games is correct, the earth may experience whole continents sinking into the sea. Billions dying. If this were to happen in the not to distant future, aliens would probably know about this. If they knew about it, they would no doubt want to harvest a great deal of DNA.

Yes, and if they already know our future, then perhaps they are here to salvage something and witness the event... however, I don't think anything major will happen, I just think it will be a slow, slow slide....

[Dera]

Hey Capt. Cool av

I think this caller is another loony martoonie.

[MuseNoir]

Long distance charges will soon be a thing of the past Mcno...the Ma Bells have been quivering in their boots about this for years and are still making good money from it, however no where near what they used to.

$29.95/year for unlimited long distance sounds good to me. If one knows how to route through the net ( which I don't btw), they say you can call almost anywhere for free these days...all over the globe!

I need a phone bill that is 30 bucks a year.......

[Nemo]

Yes, 'spunk' is an attractor. You can be old even and still be sexy if you have 'spunk.' I saw that actress tonight who won the 'best actress' for 'The Quenn.' Her name is Mirra or something. She has 'it.' Spunk. She is very sexy. She's 61. Most boys would agree with me about her.

'Spunk' in a child is often called 'smart ass.' It leads to trouble with teachers and things.

[Topper]

Long distance charges will soon be a thing of the past Mcno...the Ma Bells have been quivering in their boots about this for years and are still making good money from it, however no where near what they used to.

$29.95/year for unlimited long distance sounds good to me. If one knows how to route through the net ( which I don't btw), they say you can call almost anywhere for free these days...all over the globe!

nice rates for anyone traveling the Al-CAN hwy ... my nationwide calling plan doesn't include Canada although it had coverage that cost me well over $258 dollars in additional fees.

[MuseNoir]

The chemtrail analysis is frightening......... particularly that there are sedatives found in there. No wonder most people I see are asleep.

[ninj]

Hi ninj.....glad to have you with us.

We're hoping for a real "wanna take a ride" night, tonight!!
Yeppers it looks like we are in for a ride.
Hey a little off topic but the is a commercial on youtube that if you'd like should check out, Its the best I've ever seen. I posted the link a couple days ago but here is the link again www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYnlIU4Mak8 those that check it out let me know what you think of it.
boy my net is slow tonight :(

[Mcnowhere]

Long distance charges will soon be a thing of the past Mcno...the Ma Bells have been quivering in their boots about this for years and are still making good money from it, however no where near what they used to.

$29.95/year for unlimited long distance sounds good to me. If one knows how to route through the net ( which I don't btw), they say you can call almost anywhere for free these days...all over the globe!
I have downloaded Skype on the computer at work with the intent of hooking up a web cam so that I can talk to my girlfriend in Scotland during the day which is her evening. But haven't got it up and running yet.

[Tinkerbell]

Thanks Tink....you're is pretty cool too! :)

Than you Alpha. I think you meant the old one, I just changed it and didn't see your post 'til now... I'm behind, as usual.:sigh:

[MuseNoir]

williamstade, there you are

[Alpha]

Hi everyone!:beerchug:

Hi CB....most cool avatar!!!!

http://scosoft.com/s/d/62a82059.gifhttp://scosoft.com/s/d/62a82059.gif

Now I don't remember DR Doom talking about bees...does anyone else?

I just googled it and it might be somewhere in this transcript (http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/dame0197.html)

I'm not going to take the time to read it now, though...just thought I'd throw it up before I lose it.

[williamstade]

After hearing those kinds of sort of ET moralizing I keep feeling that friggin. All-I-want-to-do-is-have-some-fun-until-the-son-comes-up-over-Santa-Monica-Boulevard hedonistic desire.

Somehow I do not think that makes me a lesser intelligence! LOL

William

[Topper]

I have downloaded Skype on the computer at work with the intent of hooking up a web cam so that I can talk to my girlfriend in Scotland during the day which is her evening. But haven't got it up and running yet.

As we say in Texas "Best gid her done"

[MuseNoir]

This caller is 62, and has been a contactee since he was 3. He was taken into a large craft where he saw Nordic types, and remembers seeing thousands of other people there. They watched a viewing screen of future events that he says is happening now... the speeding up of time, wars, earth changes... intersting call, I hope he calls back some time.

[Alpha]

Yeppers it looks like we are in for a ride.
Hey a little off topic but the is a commercial on youtube that if you'd like should check out, Its the best I've ever seen. I posted the link a couple days ago but here is the link again www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYnlIU4Mak8 those that check it out let me know what you think of it.

Thanks ninj...will do. :)

Just a tip...things often get lost in the TO because of the fast pace and the number of pages every night.

Please post this as a separate thread somewhere on the forum if/when you get a chance and then folks can find it and comment on it . It'll be easier for all to find that way.

[Dera]

Yes, 'spunk' is an attractor. You can be old even and still be sexy if you have 'spunk.' I saw that actress tonight who won the 'best actress' for 'The Quenn.' Her name is Mirra or something. She has 'it.' Spunk. She is very sexy. She's 61. Most boys would agree with me about her.

'Spunk' in a child is often called 'smart ass.' It leads to trouble with teachers and things.

This grandma thanks you very much for the compliment.

[Captain Beyond]

Nice to be here with all of you! Slept through the show last night!http://www.clanforen.de/clanforen/images/smilies/smilies031205/a018.gif

[Nemo]

Yea, that guy had a great story. Too bad we had to move on.:sad:

[MuseNoir]

wasn't much, CB!

[Alpha]

I have downloaded Skype on the computer at work with the intent of hooking up a web cam so that I can talk to my girlfriend in Scotland during the day which is her evening. But haven't got it up and running yet.

You can use it without a webcam though, can't you McNo? Art mentioned some kind of cordless receiver...guess that would be an addtional expense or can one plug a regular phone into it?

[Mcnowhere]

As we say in Texas "Best gid her done"
Friggin around on the computer trying to get things to work is not my idea of a good time. Bad language occurs and things fly across the room and the dogs hide under the bed.


http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/a032.gif

[Topper]

Nice to be here with all of you! Slept through the show last night!http://www.clanforen.de/clanforen/images/smilies/smilies031205/a018.gif

You picked a good night to sleep.

[Alpha]

This caller is 62, and has been a contactee since he was 3. He was taken into a large craft where he saw Nordic types, and remembers seeing thousands of other people there. They watched a viewing screen of future events that he says is happening now... the speeding up of time, wars, earth changes... intersting call, I hope he calls back some time.

I wish Art would hold these good callers on longer...even in to after the break like he used to.

I bet this guy had tons of interesting things to share....oh well.....

[Captain Beyond]

This caller is 62, and has been a contactee since he was 3. He was taken into a large craft where he saw Nordic types, and remembers seeing thousands of other people there. They watched a viewing screen of future events that he says is happening now... the speeding up of time, wars, earth changes... intersting call, I hope he calls back some time.

Like I said before, very similar things happen to me. What they let me see was military event happening all around. Planes landing on highways, makeshift staging bases etc. Eventually the came back for me and took me to a very cold place while the events unfolded. This was during the 1970's when I had this particular experience, much later than earlier experiences with the other type beings.

[Mcnowhere]

You can use it without a webcam though, can't you McNo? Art mentioned some kind of cordless receiver...guess that would be an addtional expense or can one plug a regular phone into it?
Yep, you just plug in a mike as far as I know.

[Alpha]

You picked a good night to sleep.

Hi Tops....not kidding :lmao:

Yeah, CB...Art spooled Criswell after the first two hours and he almost put us all to sleep.

[Tinkerbell]

Nice to be here with all of you! Slept through the show last night!http://www.clanforen.de/clanforen/images/smilies/smilies031205/a018.gif

Good to see you CB!:smily012:

[Captain Beyond]

You picked a good night to sleep.

Yeah, I heard it was crap!:sad:

[Nemo]

I like the fact that Sparks had a normal, successful life as a sane person before any of this happened to him. It adds credence to this story.

[loner]

You mean Helen Mirren:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/239308~Helen-Mirren-Posters.jpg

I liked what she had to say about Queen Elizabeth, too.

[ninj]

Thanks ninj...will do. :)

Just a tip...things often get lost in the TO because of the fast pace and the number of pages every night.

Please post this as a separate thread somewhere on the forum if/when you get a chance and then folks can find it and comment on it . It'll be easier for all to find that way. Will do, I'll post a link in the
Silver Screen - TV - Stage - Entertainment News Worlds area titled "a great commercial" ok and thanks Alpha :)

[Dera]

Yeah, CB. Everyone on last night's show (except Art) must have been sniffing chemtrails.

[Topper]

Well dang I was hoping to hear Jim Sparks after missing most of his interview in Dec. :lmao:

[ninj]

I thought they came and got jim hehehe.

[Nemo]

Yes, Helen Mirren. I've been checking her out for years. She's got that 'thing.'

[Alpha]

I like the fact that Sparks had a normal, successful life as a sane person before any of this happened to him. It adds credence to this story.

He's still trying to have one Nemo...it did mess him up for a while and I think his wife left him though....if I remember correctly...

[Alpha]

Well dang I was hoping to hear Jim Sparks after missing most of his interview in Dec. :lmao:

Art got him back Tops...here we go!! ;)

[Captain Beyond]

The board is running like crap for me. Slower than a 3 legged arthritic turtle!http://www.clipart.co.uk/clipart/mazeguy/animal/turtle.gif

[williamstade]

"Contact" as psychological trauma and unravelling. I sometimes wish this facet was more talked about.

I suppose coping and quality of life are important issues too if not maybe more so.

William

[Alpha]

Yeah, CB. Everyone on last night's show (except Art) must have been sniffing chemtrails.

or those dang martoonies!! ;)

[MuseNoir]

"Contact" as psychological trauma and unravelling. I sometimes wish this facet was more talked about.

I suppose coping and quality of life are important issues too if not maybe more so.

William

Yes, he writes about this in his book - all the fall out that happened in his life

[Alpha]

"Contact" as psychological trauma and unravelling. I sometimes wish this facet was more talked about.

I suppose coping and quality of life are important issues too if not maybe more so.

William

I'm sure there are many professionals who likely could talk to that William provided they had an open enough mind to realize that these experiences are not delusional or hallucinatory in origin in most/many cases.

I'm sure PTSD is quite common with abductees.

[Captain Beyond]

Very similar to astral experiences. Makes me think that these beings operate in a higher realm of reality.

All these symptoms sound like activation of the heart chakra!

[Alpha]

Yes, he writes about this in his book - all the fall out that happened in his life

That's it Muse...I'm getting that book. I was going to do it last time he was on, but now I HAVE to have it!!

[Mcnowhere]

The board is running like crap for me. Slower than a 3 legged arthritic turtle!http://www.clipart.co.uk/clipart/mazeguy/animal/turtle.gif
Hi CB.

Mine has been kicking me off for the last 2 nites too.

[williamstade]

Yes, he writes about this in his book - all the fall out that happened in his life

I bet. :AR15firin :very_first_smiley:

William

[Alpha]

Very similar to astral experiences. Makes me think that these beings operate in a higher realm of reality.

All these symptoms sound like activation of the heart chakra!

Could be CB, however in some cases could it not also be the "fight or flight" response?

[MuseNoir]

That's it Muse...I'm getting that book. I was going to do it last time he was on, but now I HAVE to have it!!

Yes, it's good.. very much like his interviews, very informal and a fast read, filled with lots of descriptions

[Topper]

Am I right to assume Jim was living in Nevada when he started having these
abductions?

[Alpha]

Yes, it's good.. very much like his interviews, very informal and a fast read, filled with lots of descriptions

Muse, Art just asked him about the alphabet....the graphic you scanned & posted.

Now he's getting in to how angry he was getting.

[Topper]

Now I know why I had a strange fear about Nevada ... I didn't master it until
2001.

[Alpha]

Now that's interesting...Jim thinks the alphabet was the ETs way to teach him/humans how to be telepathic.....convert energy and a thought to symbol form...either for the transmitter or the receiver :thinking:

He could be bang on here!!!

[Captain Beyond]

Could be CB, however in some cases could it not also be the "fight or flight" response?

That is always possible, but you can't really fight back very much. If you try and act violent, you will be paralyzed very quickly. The Nordics types while having some emotions, are very afraid of our ability to become very angry and violent.

[Dera]

The symbols remind me a lot of shorthand.

[Captain Beyond]

I experienced many geometric symbols!

[Alpha]

The board is running like crap for me. Slower than a 3 legged arthritic turtle!


Hi CB.

Mine has been kicking me off for the last 2 nites too.

I don't understand it folks....it's running fine at my end and believe me the server is no where near me?!?!?!? :dunno:

[williamstade]

Very similar to astral experiences. Makes me think that these beings operate in a higher realm of reality.

All these symptoms sound like activation of the heart chakra!

You know what? I can kind of agree with you. But I think it is a bit like having it force fed and rammed down the persons throat at times.

I go back and forth between respecting them in a limited way, arguing with them, and at the same time trying to build an enjoyable life. I'll never prove it nor want to but often feel they are more like a celestial mafia then ultimately enlightened beings. Imho.

William

[Not Here]

Good evening all!! Just catching up with the post! Looks like a good show is going to happen!!

[MuseNoir]

I experienced many geometric symbols!

did the alphabet i posted earlier on page 1 look familiar?

[Topper]

I've never had any experiences as the ones Jim is discribing but it truly sounds as if he is being taught how to heighten his other senses in a trail and error
experiment to learn telepathic messaging.

[Alpha]

That is always possible, but you can't really fight back very much. If you try and act violent, you will be paralyzed very quickly. The Nordics types while having some emotions, are very afraid of our ability to become very angry and violent.

I was talking more about the physiological reaction as in increased heart rate and all the other physiological symptoms of stress/fear.

I've heard others say the same as you do CB...that one is almost immobilized...almost like in sleep paralysis, which is something I have experienced.

[Topper]

The symbols remind me a lot of shorthand.

I agree

[Alpha]

Good evening all!! Just catching up with the post! Looks like a good show is going to happen!!

Hi Not Here :wave:

Yup, put your seatbelt on....it's "wanna take a ride" time!!! :dance:

[Topper]

What Sparks is suggesting is remarkably like hearing Stan Deyo past experiences in the air corp.

[Alpha]

I remember how resistant, negative and angry Jim was....how Pavlovian the training techniques were that they used with him.....

[Topper]

I remember how resistant, negative and angry Jim was....how Pavlovian the training techniques were that they used with him.....

I'm in total agreement

[Captain Beyond]

did the alphabet i posted earlier on page 1 look familiar?

It does look familiar! The geometric symbols were something different, something designed to either condition me in a certain way. Like I mentioned elsewhere, Whitley had the exact same experience with the symbols, and just like me, it made his very ill.

[MuseNoir]

It does look familiar! The geometric symbols were something different, something designed to either condition me in a certain way. Like I mentioned elsewhere, Whitley had the exact same experience with the symbols, and just like me, it made his very ill.

yes, i have heard him mention being sick

[williamstade]

Hi Not Here. Good to see you!

William (little late on the friendly hello! LOL)

[Mcnowhere]

I just got booted off again and it seems to be happening ever since I switched to Firefox so now I'm back on Explorer. I will miss those smilies though.

Jim Sparks is my cup of tea. Great guest!

[Topper]

It does look familiar! The geometric symbols were something different, something designed to either condition me in a certain way. Like I mentioned elsewhere, Whitley had the exact same experience with the symbols, and just like me, it made his very ill.

Not to me but I've never seen nor met the gray's that Betty/Barney/another friend of mine have. Seems I have a fast track to the Angel crowd or as I call em the glowing fiber optic ones.

[Dera]

It does look familiar! The geometric symbols were something different, something designed to either condition me in a certain way. Like I mentioned elsewhere, Whitley had the exact same experience with the symbols, and just like me, it made his very ill.

This is Gregg Shorthand. It is the system that I learned and I can read this:

[Not Here]

Hi Not Here. Good to see you!

William (little late on the friendly hello! LOL)

Hi William, don't worry about it. When a good show is on you tend to forget such things. Fast half hour!!

[Captain Beyond]

yes, i have heard him mention being sick

The best way I can describe the feeling was much like motion sickness on a grand scale, and very strange feeling of perceiving the visual images as being very out of proportion in some very strange way. Very hard to describe the feeling.

[Topper]

This is Gregg Shorthand. It is the system that I learned and I can read this:

Please note Jim's drawing excluded the Y which is used in standard Shorthand.
Thank goodness I never took that in business school ... I took all the computer
or electronics instead.

[Captain Beyond]

Sorry about my manners as well to anyone I missed. Things move so fast sometimes that I forget to say hi to everyone!:dunno:

[Alpha]

I thought Jim only did one previous show with Art...I'm going to have to try to find the other one.

Well the Coast site says he only had one 5 hour show with Art on Dec 9, 2006....perhaps Art is mixing something up :dunno:

Here's a drawing of one of the beings Jim was dealing with from the first show.

[Topper]

The best way I can describe the feeling was much like motion sickness on a grand scale, and very strange feeling of perceiving the visual images as being very out of proportion in some very strange way. Very hard to describe the feeling.

it sounds like an advanced form of motion sickness

[Captain Beyond]

it sounds like an advanced form of motion sickness

Yeah, that is the best way I could ever describe it.

[Not Here]

Sorry about my manners as well to anyone I missed. Things move so fast sometimes that I forget to say hi to everyone!:dunno:

Hi Capt. Good to see you tonight!!

[Alpha]

It does look familiar! The geometric symbols were something different, something designed to either condition me in a certain way. Like I mentioned elsewhere, Whitley had the exact same experience with the symbols, and just like me, it made his very ill.

I remember that too now CB...I really need to re-read Communion.

[ninj]

This is the first time I've heard this guys story. I got some catching up to do, He sure seem interesting and it looks like I'll be buying another book.

[Topper]

This is where I have a tangle between my logical side and my paranormal side
why would a unisex or cloned being be interested in our emotions and or reproduction?

Please don't say Borg

[Alpha]

I just got booted off again and it seems to be happening ever since I switched to Firefox so now I'm back on Explorer. I will miss those smilies though.

Jim Sparks is my cup of tea. Great guest!

When you get a chance McNo, put something out on the tech Deck for Project about what is happening to you with Firefox..he's the one who encouraged us all to change...perhaps it's just something in your config......

[MuseNoir]

I thought Jim only did one previous show with Art...I'm going to have to try to find the other one.

Well the Coast site says he only had one 5 hour show with Art on Dec 9, 2006....perhaps Art is mixing something up :dunno:

Here's a drawing of one of the beings Jim was dealing with from the first show.

I know, I thought he had done just one as well...

[Captain Beyond]

Hi Capt. Good to see you tonight!!

Thank you and nice to have you and everyone else here tonight. This is a really interesting show tonight.

[Not Here]

This is where I have a tangle between my logical side and my paranormal side
why would a unisex or cloned being be interested in our emotions and or reproduction?

Please don't say Borg

We are different.

[Alpha]

This is where I have a tangle between my logical side and my paranormal side
why would a unisex or cloned being be interested in our emotions and or reproduction?

Please don't say Borg

"envy" of sorts...or just like we attempt to understand other biological life around us :dunno:

[Captain Beyond]

Wouldn't it be very hard to teach an alphabet without a base language, and certain imagery to associate with certain reference points?

[Topper]

What's different with Jim Sparks story is him living in Nevada and being taught
to be telepathic .... If you compare this to Betty and Barney they didn't have to learn it was all induced naturally there telepathic communications.

I see a large RED FLAG

[Alpha]

We are different.

Yes we are...some say they covet our "essence" or "soul"

Jim is just confirming others theories about the different types of greys...the smaller ones being androids or drones of sorts with no or little emotion.

Interesting that he could differentiate one from another by the energy they radiate.

Perhaps that's what was causing part of that motion sickness feeling CB because as Jim said...that energy is "not from this world" :thinking:

[Topper]

I'm going to take off. Have a good night.

[Alpha]

What's different with Jim Sparks story is him living in Nevada and being taught
to be telepathic .... If you compare this to Betty and Barney they didn't have to learn it was all induced naturally there telepathic communications.

I see a large RED FLAG

Remember though Tops, he was very angry and extremely resistant...perhaps this is why the "methodology" was different.

I don't recall whether Betty or Barney were.

Share your thoughts on the Red Flag.

[Dera]

This is where I have a tangle between my logical side and my paranormal side
why would a unisex or cloned being be interested in our emotions and or reproduction?

Please don't say Borg

Maybe "they" realize that they are missing out on a lot! :naughty: :smily012:

[Captain Beyond]

Goodnight Topper!

[Alpha]

I'm going to take off. Have a good night.

Sorry to lose you tonight Topper....would have appreciated your input. :sad:

Have a good night :wave:

[Captain Beyond]

What's different with Jim Sparks story is him living in Nevada and being taught
to be telepathic .... If you compare this to Betty and Barney they didn't have to learn it was all induced naturally there telepathic communications.

I see a large RED FLAG

I remember Betty being more receptive than Barney!

[MuseNoir]

Night Topper

[Not Here]

Yes we are...some say they covet our "essence" or "soul"

Jim is just confirming others theories about the different types of greys...the smaller ones being androids or drones of sorts with no or little emotion.

Interesting that he could differentiate one from another by the energy they radiate.

Perhaps that's what was causing part of that motion sickness feeling CB because as Jim said...that energy is "not from this world" :thinking:

When you have a being that has little to know emotion, something (us) with emotions as varied as ours, would be of great interest to them. They would ask them selfs "How do they keep from killing each other?"

[Dera]

Stay cool, Toppy. Be safe and well and come back to us soon.

[Not Here]

I'm going to take off. Have a good night.

Night Topper!!

[williamstade]

I'm going to take off. Have a good night.

You too Topper.

William

[Alpha]

When you have a being that has little to know emotion, something (us) with emotions as varied as ours, would be of great interest to them. They would ask them selfs "How do they keep from killing each other?"

The answer to that is barely, up to the present and getting worse by the moment :sad:

[Captain Beyond]

When you have a being that has little to know emotion, something (us) with emotions as varied as ours, would be of great interest to them. They would ask them selfs "How do they keep from killing each other?"

I agree. Our emotions, our creativity and imagination are all of great interest to them.

[Alpha]

Just wanted to commend you all for the wonderful avatars tonight :notworthy :)

We have the coolest members and avatars of any forum on the internet!!!

http://yelims1.free.fr/Alcooliques/Alcooliques11.gif

[Dera]

Break Break Break! Make A Run For The Kitchen!

[MuseNoir]

I agree. Our emotions, our creativity and imagination are all of great interest to them.

Is that part of what they are after, or is it just an interesting sidenote.

[Alpha]

Break Break Break! Make A Run For The Kitchen!

Good idea Dera...those tacos look yummy :yumyum: :yumyum:...time to head for the fridge...BRB

[Not Here]

Break Break Break! Make A Run For The Kitchen!

Tacos look good! Too bad that I'm eating 3 BLTs right now (with chips).

[Alpha]

Is that part of what they are after, or is it just an interesting sidenote.

Isn't that the question Muse.....that would be a good one to FB Art...wonder if Jim got any insight to that. Did he refer to anything like that in the book?

[Alpha]

Tacos look good! Too bad that I'm eating 3 BLTs right now (with chips).

THREE!!!!! :lmao: OH man would I love to own a metabolism like yours!!! :yumyum: ...love BLTs!!! :D

[Not Here]

Is that part of what they are after, or is it just an interesting sidenote.

If this is a side note, what is the major theme?

[Captain Beyond]

Just wanted to commend you all for the wonderful avatars tonight :notworthy :)

We have the coolest members and avatars of any forum on the internet!!!

http://yelims1.free.fr/Alcooliques/Alcooliques11.gif

For sure Alpha, the best members and best avatars, and the actual freedom to say what we think as well!

[loner]

Sparks said they like learning about our wars. Great, the one thing they learn from us... :AR15firin

[Not Here]

THREE!!!!! :lmao: OH man would I love to own a metabolism like yours!!! :yumyum: ...love BLTs!!! :D

After losing 10 lbs, I back to eating all I want! Now I take it easy during the day so I can pig at night!

[Alpha]

Sparks said they like learning about our wars. Great, the one thing they learn from us... :AR15firin

Notice the bumper music "war, what is it good for...absolutely nothing!!!"

I missed him saying that...did he say why???? :confused:

O.K ...Art said they were going to get in to that more now.

[Captain Beyond]

Tacos look good! Too bad that I'm eating 3 BLTs right now (with chips).

Ole CB loves BLT's! You have me drooling! http://zuppija.com/images/smiles/barbecue.png

[Alpha]

After losing 10 lbs, I back to eating all I want! Now I take it easy during the day so I can pig at night!

I don't know how you could lose any weight with all those decadent deserts....good for you!! :)

I love the during the night munchie times as well....and yes, one has to take it easy during the day.

[ninj]

Man I'm wishing I can get in on this but work is having me listening more thien doing what I want and thats getting in on the posting. But you all are making it a good read when I take a break from work. I'm wondering if they are interested in the war side of us so they can add the info about us to the history books of the cosmos before we kill ourselves off. Man I hope not.

[Dera]

Fo Po Ole Starvin' CB:

[Not Here]

I don't know how you could lose any weight with all those decadent deserts....good for you!! :)

I love the during the night munchie times as well....and yes, one has to take it easy during the day.

I started making chocolate with Splenda instead of sugar. There are other things I did, but this was the greatest change so I called it my "Chocolate Diet":haha:

[Captain Beyond]

Man I'm wishing I can get in on this but work is having me listening more thien doing what I want and thats getting in on the posting. But you all are making it a good read when I take a break from work. I'm wondering if they are interested in the war side of us so they can add the info about us before we kill ourselves off. Man I hope not.

Being interested in war is a bit confusing to me.

[Alpha]

Man I'm wishing I can get in on this but work is having me listening more thien doing what I want and thats getting in on the posting. But you all are making it a good read when I take a break from work. I'm wondering if they are interested in the war side of us so they can add the info about us before we kill ourselves off. Man I hope not.

I hope not too...perhaps it's to understand that part of the human psyche or perhaps a genetic predisposition to war, fight, covet, greed etc., so that the can intervene in some way and alter and fix it...I prefer that to your scenario.

[ninj]

I find it strange that so many speices of ET's are working togehter

[Alpha]

Being interested in war is a bit confusing to me.

Perhaps they need to understand it for the next genetic intervention...to breed it out of us, in other words........ as we sure aren't ascending or getting beyond that on our own!! :dunno:

[Alpha]

I find it strange that so many speices of ET's are working togehter

Perhaps they are not as divisive as we are. In other words, rather than conquer they have evolved to a state of respect and co-operation?!?!?


I'm sure that's not the case for all the ET races....however...just a thought.

[Captain Beyond]

I find it strange that so many speices of ET's are working togehter

yes, it begs to ask the question, just what is their agenda?

[ninj]

I also think they are here for there interests and no ours because I dont think we are a threat to them by going to there home with our waring and hatred for a longtime yet.

[Alpha]

yes, it begs to ask the question, just what is their agenda?

I think there is more than one agenda...just like here on this planet..there are good guys and bad guys......

[Alpha]

I also think they are here for there interests and no ours because I dont think we are a threat to them by going to there home with our waring and hatred for a longtime yet.

I don't know ninj...perhaps you're right. However if we take another of many POV that perhaps they have been involved in our "creation" process, as with any parent they may have some vested interest in our progress and survival :thinking:

[MuseNoir]

If this is a side note, what is the major theme?

DNA? I dont know.

[Captain Beyond]

I also think they are here for there interests and no ours because I dont think we are a threat to them by going to there home with our waring and hatred for a longtime yet.

You may be right. I don't think we are any threat to them and yes, perhaps we have something that they need. Mebbe they have evolved so far that they need to get a bit of emotion back.

[Alpha]

If this is a side note, what is the major theme?

Excellent question Not Here......I want to know if Jim Sparks thinks or knows if these beings have a "soul" in our conventional definition.

Remember John Lear saying many times, that's what some of them are coveting.

[Dera]

Thanks, but I pray that I never have to use his suggested coping methods!

:eek:

[ninj]

I also think they are here for there interests and no ours because I dont think we are a threat to them by going to there home with our waring and hatred for a longtime yet.
I was just thinking , What is a better way to beat us at war then to come thousands of years before we can threaten then and bread the hatred and waring out if us. If they can time travel they might know who's bloodline maybe a threat in the future and thats the people they are taking and changing them so to remove the threat,It's an idea .

[loner]

Those pesky gorns...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/54/270px-StarTrek-Gorn.jpg

[williamstade]

DNA? I dont know.

We hear a good bit of that in UFO literature, huh?

Makes sense. If they really are breeders in any way and have the ability to understand DNA then it becomes a bit like the friggin' Grail to them. Pure speculation on my part. Maybe just wild speculation.

William

[Captain Beyond]

I was just thinking , What is a better way to beat us at war then to come thousands of years before we can threaten then and bread the hatred and waring out if us. If they can time travel they might know who's bloodline maybe a threat in the future and thats the people they are taking and changing them so to remove the threat,It's an idea .

Well, it is an interesting and different approach as to their motives ninj.

[Alpha]

I think long course genetic intervention is the only explanation for the varied races on this planet...even anthropologists can't agree on the origins of "man" and the gaps between what "concrete" evidence they have on good old homo erectus.

It don't think it's so far fetched to genetically engineer not only to breed for physical attributes, but for psychological ones as well......just a thought.....

[williamstade]

CIGARETTE!! CIGARETTE!! BRB...

William

[Captain Beyond]

Those pesky gorns...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/54/270px-StarTrek-Gorn.jpg

Didn't James T Kirk kick his butt back in the 60's?http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7251/startrek1ai6.gif

[loner]

...Pure speculation on my part. Maybe just wild speculation.

William

That`s why it`s called "Imaginative Worlds". Speculate away! :dance:

[Captain Beyond]

DNA seems to be a common theme, stemming from the numerous accounts of sexual experiments that are reportedly experienced.

[loner]

Didn't James T Kirk kick his butt back in the 60's?http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7251/startrek1ai6.gif

Yep. They aired that episode on TVLand this weekend.

[Not Here]

We hear a good bit of that in UFO literature, huh?

Makes sense. If they really are breeders in any way and have the ability to understand DNA then it becomes a bit like the friggin' Grail to them. Pure speculation on my part. Maybe just wild speculation.

William

Does that mean that all of us will resemble "Animal ", your av, when they get done with us?

[ninj]

Well, it is an interesting and different approach as to their motives ninj.

I'm thinking why is it most of the time scary for the people being taken? if it was for our good you'd think it would be a nicer experience. Like in a game of chest you try to make moves that you opponent dont know what your next move is and the next thing you know "checkmate" . But again its just an idea.

[Alpha]

Oh My......wonder what was happening to that woman he was trying to save....a book title "the Roman....???"

I hope Art drills down on this...

Muse does he talk about this in his book?

[Alpha]

I'm thinking why is it most of the time scary for the people being taken? if it was for our good you'd think it would be a nicer experience. Like in a game of chest you try to make moves that you opponent dont know what your next move is and the next thing you know "checkmate" . But again its just an idea.

One would think so ninj...on the other hand though, if they don't understand feeling or emotion, they likely wouldn't even consider that or know what to do with or about it :thinking:

[williamstade]

Does that mean that all of us will resemble "Animal ", your av, when they get done with us?

Nah. Only the rock stars! LOL. :haha:

William

[Captain Beyond]

I believe much of this stuff is not for good purposes, not to assist us. A few are, but much is very negative! Sharing technology for military purposes, not to give us free energy etc.

[MuseNoir]

Oh My......wonder what was happening to that woman he was trying to save....a book title "the Roman....???"

I hope Art drills down on this...

Muse does he talk about this in his book?

Yes, he does talk about trying to help a woman who was terrified in the book

[MuseNoir]

I believe much of this stuff is not for good purposes, not to assist us. A few are, but much is very negative! Sharing technology for military purposes, not to give us free energy etc.

Right... I don't think it's only to "help" us or "guide" us... they have their own agenda

[ninj]

One would think so ninj...on the other hand though, if they don't understand feeling or emotion, they likely wouldn't even consider that or know what to do with or about it :thinking:

I was thinking with me Having an interest in ninjitsu why do ninja hide from sight when doing there mission? I come to the conclusion you dont want to get caught. So why are they hiding from everyone to do what they do in that manner? I just cant be that trusting when someone thats here to help me sneaks up on me to do it.

[MuseNoir]

Okay... sadly I must leave for the night.... will catch the rest of the show tomorrow... goodnight everyone! Great show tonight!!

[Captain Beyond]

Right... I don't think it's only to "help" us or "guide" us... they have their own agenda

I didn't get really bad vibes from the more human-looking ones, but the others didn't leave me with a very good feeling.

[ninj]

I wonder if remote veiwers can veiw there intent?

[Captain Beyond]

Okay... sadly I must leave for the night.... will catch the rest of the show tomorrow... goodnight everyone! Great show tonight!!

Goodnight Muse, take care and hope to see you soon!:sadwavey:

CB

[Not Here]

Okay... sadly I must leave for the night.... will catch the rest of the show tomorrow... goodnight everyone! Great show tonight!!

Night MuseNoir, hope to see you tomorrow!

[Alpha]

I believe much of this stuff is not for good purposes, not to assist us. A few are, but much is very negative! Sharing technology for military purposes, not to give us free energy etc.

You make an excellent point CB.

Energy is one thing on the agenda...what about the environment,pollution etc.?!?!?

And why would they be dealing with the worst of the worst, corrupt power and greed mongers than rather deal with someone/s who has the best interests of humandkind instead? Why wouldn't they have those guys in the petrie dish in some underground base instead of some innocent humans?

Art has an excellent question...why is Jim being allowed to say all of this?

[Dera]

Be careful - be very careful!

[williamstade]

Goodnight MuseNoir. Have a good week!

William

[Captain Beyond]

I wonder if remote veiwers can veiw there intent?

I don't know, but it could be possible. Then again, some of these beings a re not alive as we consider being alive. The small Greys in particular seem to be something between living beings and androids.

[Dera]

Night MuseNoir, hope to see you tomorrow!

Nite Muse. We will miss ya for the next hour. Stay safe and get some rest.

[Alpha]

Okay... sadly I must leave for the night.... will catch the rest of the show tomorrow... goodnight everyone! Great show tonight!!

Night Muse....sweet dreams...see you tomorrow :wave:

[Alpha]

I don't know, but it could be possible. Then again, some of these beings a re not alive as we consider being alive. The small Greys in particular seem to be something between living beings and androids.

Jim just pretty well confirmed what your feeling are CB.

[ninj]

I have had an experiance with my wife that wasnt all that nice with something that was very bug looking and it wasnt a goodone so this is why Im thinking they are here for there perpose.

[Alpha]

I wonder if remote veiwers can veiw there intent?

Good question ninj....if they really can do it, likely yes.

After all, Dr Doom remote viewed Satan!!

Seriously though, many have talked about RVers messing with peoples minds, therefore I'm sure they are capable of deciphering intent!!

[Not Here]

My turn, have a good night! Great show but have to go! Hope to be here tomorrow, so until then, good night!

[Dera]

My turn, have a good night! Great show but have to go! Hope to be here tomorrow, so until then, good night!

Nite Not. Do be here tomorrow if poss. See ya! :wavey:

[williamstade]

Good question ninj....if they really can do it, likely yes.

After all, Dr Doom remote viewed Satan!!

Seriously though, many have talked about RVers messing with peoples minds, therefore I'm sure they are capable of deciphering intent!!

Hi Alpha,

What remote viwers have you heard are out to mess with people's minds? The main names I have heard of seem pretty on the level. Although I think Dames got a bit too entrances by the doom, doom, doom stuff.

William

[Captain Beyond]

I have had an experiance with my wife that wasnt all that nice with something that was very bug looking and it wasnt a goodone so this is why Im thinking they are here for there perpose.

Well, there are the Mantis-Type beings both in UFOlogy as well as Ayahuasca experiences.

[Captain Beyond]

My turn, have a good night! Great show but have to go! Hope to be here tomorrow, so until then, good night!

Good night NH, have a good one!:sadwavey:

[Alpha]

I have had an experiance with my wife that wasnt all that nice with something that was very bug looking and it wasnt a goodone so this is why Im thinking they are here for there perpose.

What happened ninj?..if you don't mind me asking...I understand if it's too personal though.....

[williamstade]

My turn, have a good night! Great show but have to go! Hope to be here tomorrow, so until then, good night!

Good night Not Here. Have a good one!

William

[Alpha]

My turn, have a good night! Great show but have to go! Hope to be here tomorrow, so until then, good night!

Night Not Here...always good to have you with us!!:)

Dream sweet dreams....see you later :wave:

[Alpha]

Hi Alpha,

What remote viwers have you heard are out to mess with people's minds? The main names I have heard of seem pretty on the level. Although I think Dames got a bit too entrances by the doom, doom, doom stuff.

William

McMoneagle speaks of this in his books.....I believe Targ has discussed this as well among others...

[Alpha]

Interesting the Pavlovian punishment reward system they used with Jim to get him to "behave".....guess a tried and true technique...punishment reward....very simple isn't it.

[williamstade]

McMoneagle speaks of this in his books.....I believe Targ has discussed this as well among others...

Ah. I have been cautious about it for awhile but mostly due to warnings that advise care with it.

However, I can see where some may use remote influencing to generally harm for reasons beyond me.

William

[Captain Beyond]

Interesting the Pavlovian punishment reward system they used with Jim to get him to "behave".....guess a tried and true technique...punishment reward....very simple isn't it.

Well, perhaps we are looked upon as quite primitive!

[Captain Beyond]

Ah. I have been cautious about it for awhile but mostly due to warnings that advise care with it.

However, I can see where some may use remote influencing to generally harm for reasons beyond me.

William

More of that going on that we realize!

[Alpha]

Ah. I have been cautious about it for awhile but mostly due to warnings that advise care with it.

However, I can see where some may use remote influencing to generally harm for reasons beyond me.

William

Actually excellent point William and thanks for nicely correcting me. Yes, there is a huge difference between remote viewing and remote influencing, however both have been and are done.

We need to remember remote viewing in the military global sense was developed and used to gain advantage over a group, individual, country etc. Guess what they say about anything being fair in both love and war applies ;)

[williamstade]

Good night Alpha, Captain Beyond, Dark Skies, Dera, loner, and ninj !!

Want to go and try to get some rest. Loved being able to hang out tonight as long as I did. Still love this place.

Thanks!

William

[Alpha]

Good night Alpha, Captain Beyond, Dark Skies, Dera, loner, and ninj !!

Want to go and try to get some rest. Loved being able to hang out tonight as long as I did. Still love this place.

Thanks!

William

Night william....have a good and safe Monday...sweet dreams ...hope to see you soon :wave:

[Captain Beyond]

Goodnight William! Hope you get rested!:sadwavey:

[williamstade]

Actually excellent point William and thanks for nicely correcting me. Yes, there is a huge difference between remote viewing and remote influencing, however both have been and are done.

We need to remember remote viewing in the military global sense was developed and used to gain advantage over a group, individual, country etc. Guess what they say about anything being fair in both love and war applies ;)


Yeah. Not sure how much of an advantage the Stargate type programs gave the military beyond noting it as a human potential. I think eastern spirituality talks about this stuff with a good bit of requency and also in a cautious manner.

William

[williamstade]

Goodnight William! Hope you get rested!:sadwavey:

Thanks! You too!

William

[Dera]

Nite William. Love to have you with us! Rest and be safe.

[Alpha]

Yeah. Not sure how much of an advantage the Stargate type programs gave the military beyond noting it as a human potential. I think eastern spirituality talks about this stuff with a good bit of requency and also in a cautious manner.

William


True Wiliam...it's all about intent ;)

[Captain Beyond]

I never heard these beings mention a supreme being. That always concerned me a bit!

[Dark Skies]

Good night Alpha, Captain Beyond, Dark Skies, Dera, loner, and ninj !!

Want to go and try to get some rest. Loved being able to hang out tonight as long as I did. Still love this place.

Thanks!

William

Have a great night William

I wonder if Art's going a extra hour being he's holding back callers in this segment

[Alpha]

Sparks is bang on here IMHO....we humans have put a "limit" on what the "Creator" has actually created....and YES, he also feels that the ETs were heavily involved in our "creation process"....always been my gut feel.....

[loner]

G`night, william :wave:

[Alpha]

Have a great night William

I wonder if Art's going a extra hour being he's holding back callers in this segment

I wonder too Dark Skies...now wouldn't that be something....

[ninj]

What happened ninj?..if you don't mind me asking...I understand if it's too personal though.....
Well it was what me and the wife call date night and we lay in the livingroom and watch movies after the kids go to bed.Well we fell a sleep and in the morning we both woke up and didnt say anything to each other and it seemed like we where pissed off with each other cause we didnt want to talk to each other. So after a hour os so I strike up a convo and say hey hun I had the weirds dream lastnight and went on to tell here about my dream. After telling her my dream she looked at me with the weirdest look and said I had the same dream, I was like hmmmm I dont think you can have the exact some dream as someone else on the same night I mean whats the odds she shrugged her shoulders and we went on with or day a little quit at first and then it went back to normal. What happen was as we where sleeping I felt/heard something was in our kitchen and so I started to look that was and when I did I thought I seen a shadow mover just out of sight into the kitchen so me being me I went to get up to see what it was cause I thought someone broke in to our place so I was going to see who was there. When I went to get up all of a sudden I couldn't move and the harder I moved the faster I was going under so I tried to relax and was able to enough to see what looked like a ficken humanliike body with a bug like head coming out of the dark and the thing I knwo I went under and then it was morning. My wife was same except she fought it and went under faster then me and she didnt get to see it but everything esle was the same. I 'm not saying I have been taken by an alien because I really dont know if I was but it was pretty wierd stuff. I have seen SOme strange things in the sky with many people and bye myself on many occasions what I seen I dont know because was there was behind the light and didnt see a disk or what ever, I can say what ever they have been was airplanes because Im in to aircraft and nothing we have can move like that. Sooooo thats my story. Like I said no fun in that story, I dont scare easy Im also a fireman and Iv'e never been really scared when fire fighting and I have been in so doooozes but that night scared me and that pisses me off.

[Captain Beyond]

Have a great night William

I wonder if Art's going a extra hour being he's holding back callers in this segment

I don't know but don't think Art is going to ever have that zest again.:sad: